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Old 02-09-2014, 10:30 PM   #1
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Default Interested in lowerig...slightly, my XV

please no "you should have bought an Impezza" responses. I am interested in reducing the gap, tire to botom of fender...maybe 2-3". Has anyone experimented with other Subie springs? I understand that 08 & up WRX suspension bits fit. This is the third Subie forum I have started scanning for help, hard to believe that no-one has travelled down this road before.

Planning on adding a larger rear sway also, any advice, or heads up would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 02-09-2014, 11:27 PM   #2
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The main issue you're going to run into is angels. Because of the taller suspension on the XV the entire driveline is spaced down to keep the angles correct. Because the subframe is lower if you drop the suspension height you will end up with suspension angels that aren't optimal. You may end up with a car that has worse handling characteristics than when you started, bump steer could be come an issue, and you may wear through bushings faster. It's not really documented with the XV yet, but those are issues that often pop up with hastily lowered Foresters and Outbacks.
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:12 AM   #3
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The main issue you're going to run into is angels. Because of the taller suspension on the XV the entire driveline is spaced down to keep the angles correct. Because the subframe is lower if you drop the suspension height you will end up with suspension angels that aren't optimal. You may end up with a car that has worse handling characteristics than when you started, bump steer could be come an issue, and you may wear through bushings faster. It's not really documented with the XV yet, but those are issues that often pop up with hastily lowered Foresters and Outbacks.
I am a Subie newbie, so lots to learn. I know all about bump steer from my current mid-life crisis car. Hope to avoid any mis-steps with the XV, by getting knowledgeable advice from forum members like you.
You mention the lower subframe, does that mean there are essentially spacers of some kind between the uni-body and subframe...a body lift in old speak?

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Exactly! It doesn't quite cause the same effect as a body lift on older body on frame cars but similar idea. It's really being used to lower the suspension mounting points to get the angles back to where they should be. With any Subaru, and really an car using the same front suspension design, excessive lowering can cause some steering angle issues. In the older cars you could use an anti lift kit consisting of ball joints, tie rod ends, and bushings to help alleviate those problems. You'll be fine around an inch or so but once you get past that 2-3in mark the angles can be pretty poor. I'm not aware of an anti lift kit for the XV yet though.
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well, I actually pick the XV up tomorrow. One of the dealership mechanics is the local "go-to" Subie guy...I'll probably end up paying for some lift time with him, and try to get a direction from there.

I have a scissor lift here at home, but the mid life crisis car is on it for it's usual winter clean and mod. Too many pieces off of it at the moment to simply drop, and drive the XV on.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lift yes
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Just put some big ole tires on it.
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Thinking it highly doubtful that an STi strut/spring assembly will work for the XV. A little less doubtful with the WRX ones, but a little research on your end will turn up the data you need. If I wanted to do what you are planning, I would just look to the Impreza Limited 5dr Sport. GUESSING here, but we probably have the same same struts, just different springs. I am sure if that is incorrect, some awesome soul here will call me out on it.

If indeed it is the same, just look at something like these:

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...odClar=Limited

Of course, you are gonna DEFINITELY need a performance alignment and there is no guarantee that you will not be riding speed bumps with your diff like a limp slug. It's simply a lot easier to lower a normal stance car than to lower one that was designed to have more than normal clearance. You just might be a pioneer here.
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trade it for an Impreza silly. You can't beat 8.7"s.
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:27 AM   #10
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I have been told by the dealer parts guru, that the strut housing's are the same as the Impreza Sport...just the springs are different. I would assume that the XV springs are a slightly higher spring rate, to eliminate some of the additional body roll due to the added ride height.

I got the dimensions from Raceland, for the uncompressed length of their 08-14 WRX coilover set-up, the reviews of their coilovers, is no better or worse than those costing 2-3 times more. I put the XV up on my mid-rise lift this afternoon, and took the measurements...they match exactly.

The Racelands offer 1-3" of adjustability, independent ride height adjustment, and spring preload lock rings, uprated springs, and a 30 day money back guarantee. In other words...if they don't work, I simply send them back for a full refund...less shipping naturally. They will be here in about 5 days...now to get busy and get the rear sway, strut bar, and 18" wheelset coming also.

I'm gone the next two weeks for a family wedding in Texas, then a Porsche event in Hershey, Pa. Look for updates the end of the month...with pics if they work.
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