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http://theautopanel.blogspot.com/2013/11/2015-wrxsti-unofficially-revealed.html

from the above article
It seems like the wraps have been taken off the upcoming WRX/STi just five days before the official release by Subaru at the LA Auto Show. Below, you'll see a spec sheet and an article that has leaked onto the internet. It gives a rundown of what the WRX and STi are going to have.

First off, it seems like Subaru has indeed gone ahead and removed the "Impreza" designation, and the new models are just called the Subaru WRX and Subaru WRX STi.

Now...onto the good stuff. Here's the big news: the WRX has an FA20DIT. That's right. It basically has the BRZ motor with a turbo on it. The direct injection technology means that the gas mileage is vastly improved over the outgoing model, and we can probably expect to see MPG's around the BRZ's. The power output of the FA20DIT is 268 HP at 5600 rpm and 258 lb-ft at 4800 rpm. The disappointing part is that the acceleration to 60 is slower than the outgoing model. Subaru "predicts" that it reaches 60 from a standstill in 5.4 seconds; the outgoing model did it in 4.7. Also, the FA20DIT uses less boost.

The STi will keep it's 2.5T, but whether or not it is the EJ257 is unclear. One can always hope that it has direct injection to see improved gas mileage.

Also, the WRX is available in a 6-speed manual or CVT transmissions. Most enthusiasts will likely go for the 6-speed manual, but the CVT has given Subaru the chance to appeal to a wider variety of people. The slower acceleration to 60 is due to the addition of the 6-speed, in which it takes three shifts to reach 60 whereas it takes two on the outgoing 5 speed. The 6-speed is supposedly sourced from the Forester XT, and uses cable linkage instead of the Forester's rods.

The STi will have a 6-speed, and there is no option for a CVT. If you want a USDM STi, learn to drive stick.

The handling of this WRX seems to be miles ahead of the outgoing one. The power steering ratio has improved from 14.8:1 to 13.3:1, with 230% stiffer steering mounts. The front brake discs are larger at 12.4" up from 11.6". The car is much stiffer with stiffer springs, dampers, cross-members, subframe bushings, and front control arms. Subaru claims that all these improvements results in a 1.10 g cornering ability.

The interior is also improved with an LED display that can show information such as torque split, boost level, mpg, and icy-road warnings. It is also rumored that all models will have a backup camera that will work through this display. It seems like all models are available with a D-steering wheel as well, a wonderful addition that will add to the euphoria of spirited driving.

















"too long; didn't read" (tl;dr) notes:
* fourth generation WRX and WRX STI speculated to be based off of fourth generation Impreza
* only available in 4-door sedan for North American market
* new FA20 DIT used in 2014 Forester XT used in WRX (WRX STI uses a turbo 2.5, unknown at this time if an EJ engine or FA engine)
* 6-speed manual on WRX based off of Forester 6-speed (but cable linkage vs rods in Forester)
* WRX STI still exclusively paired with a 6-speed manual
* high-torque Lineartronic CVT available (6-speed and 8-speed modes just as in Forester XT)
* new opposed-piston fixed caliper brakes, larger than previous floating calipers
* much stiffer chassis mounts, bushings, and suspension tuning compared to predecessor
* electric power steering w/ quicker ratio than previous hydraulic steering


I really hope that 2.5 liter engine in the WRX STI is a new variant of the FA engine! I'm hoping an FA25 DIT!
 

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I personally think the body style is ugly. It looks like every other sedan out there, and even leaning towards styling of the Scion TC. What happened to the designers that created the older models.

Now if they put all the mechanical goodies from this upgraded WRX line into an STI version of our XV's... Then move over Forester there would be a brand new animal in the Zoo.
 

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While I agree that the styling doesn't look good in these pics, I will admit that I have thought that on every WRX redesign that's come out since I had mine (2004). However, each time I actually see the new body style in person it grows on me pretty quickly. Hopefully this one will do the same.
 

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It looks like the last generation Corolla S model with a hood scoop....blech

I was at Manchester Subaru tonight picking up some oil filters and they had 3 STIs in the showroom.....now those are great looking cars. I almost went with a WRX instead of the XV but didn't want to go back to a stick

Sort of wishing I did now.....especially since no more hatch :/


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2tango2 said:
It looks like the last generation Corolla S model with a hood scoop....
As someone who used to own a Corolla S -- in almost that very shade of red -- I can attest to that. :/
 

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Specs from unspecified source found:

Year Make Model: 2015 Subaru WRX 4dr Sedan AWD (2.0L 4cyl Turbo 6M)
Vehicle type: Four-door sedan
Configuration: Longitudinal, front-engine, all-wheel drive
Engine type: Turbocharged, direct-injected, flat-4, gasoline
Displacement (cc/cu-in): 1,998/150
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves per cylinder, variable intake + exhaust-valve timing
Compression ratio (x:1): 10.6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 268 @ 5,600
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 258 @ 2,000
Fuel type: Premium unleaded (required)
Transmission type: Six-speed manual
Differential(s): Front: open, center: viscous limited slip, rear: open (brake-based torque-vectoring front axle only)
Suspension, front: MacPherson strut, coil springs, stabilizer bar
Suspension, rear: Double wishbone, coil springs, stabilizer bar
Steering type: Electrically assisted rack-and-pinion power steering
Steering ratio (x:1): 14.5
Tire make and model: Dunlop Sport Maxx RT
Tire type: Performance front and rear
Tire size, front: 235/45R17
Tire size, rear: 235/45R17
Wheel size: 17-by-8 inches front and rear
Wheel material: Alloy
Brakes, front: 12.4-inch ventilated disc, two-piston sliding calipers
Brakes, rear: Disc, single-piston sliding caliper
0-60 mph, mfr. claim (sec.): 5.4
Fuel economy, mfr. est. (mpg): 24 combined/21 city/28 highway
Fuel tank capacity (U.S. gal.): 15.9
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.): 3,267
Length (in.): 180.9
Width (in.): 70.7
Height (in.): 58.1
Wheelbase (in.): 104.3
Seating capacity: 5
The 2015 WRX has the same front brakes as the Tribeca/Legacy 2.5GT/Outback 3.6R/Forester 2.0XT!

Tribeca (WX)
F 12.4 V 2P FL
R 12.6 V FL

Outback/Legacy 2.5GT/3.6R (BM/BR)
F 12.4 V 2P FL
R 11.4 V FL

Forester 2.0XT (SJ)
F 12.4 V 2P FL
R 10.9 V FL


And my personal opinion on all the negativity towards the new 2015 Subaru WRX:

For people *****ing that "oh it looks like corolla/lancer/dart" etc...


One should notice how cars during certain eras imitate each other... Cars from the 1980's were all boxy and many featured pop-up headlamps.

And don't forget that the Impreza was never much of a beauty queen. From the first generation to the current fourth generation, the base Impreza has never been too far off from it's Corolla/Civic and other compact car competition.


Needless to say, it's the same ****in' cycle again of *****ing people who have unrealistic expectations for a small car company trying to appeal to enthusiasts and new customers alike without trying to make themselves bankrupt. Don't forget how expensive it is for automakers to meet every country's laws and regulations for selling cars... If you really want to have far-fetched this-and-that, just buy one and implement it yourself.


As for "oh the WRX STI hasn't had much HP increase", Subaru's performance models from the 1970's to 1980's have had a whopping 20 HP increase from the first twin-carb Leone (high 90's to low 100's in HP) to the final iteration of the EA82 turbo engine with 111 HP... The first WRX STI had around 250-265 HP and upped itself to around 305 HP. Sure, still not a crazy jump, but not a terrible increase either.

Hell, their first H6 generated a whopping 135 HP, the same HP as a SOHC naturally-aspirated EJ22.

Subaru's priority has never been power in their performance flagship models. It's always been implementing their AWD and leading-edge technologies from the first dual-range AWD gearbox w/ center viscous LSD w/ rear clutch-type LSD to the throttle sensitivity-adjusting SI-drive.

Even then, if/when Subaru implements an FA DIT engine into the WRX STI performance flagship, I have faith they'll manage something pretty decent. Take a look at the power and torque curves of the FA20 DIT and realize how much more usable HP and torque there is...
 
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