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I drive a Prius mostly.

But winter is approaching and my 2005 Prius won't get up my 1200' driveway reliably because it is steep and because of snow and because of ground clearance.

Earlier Subaru's I had (used via my wife) didn't have very good MPG.

An Impreza I has was near 32 MPG but I the plastic skid panels broke up
and took one fender with it eventually. The car always got up my driveway but sometimes it went for broke and tore up things because a lack of ground clearance.

At the end of a long power outage during an ice storm

So the Crosstrek is what I've dreamed of.

I worry about the hybrid crosstrek not likeing to drive up hills like the Prius.

So I'm thinking about a crosstrek and the forester.



I've drove a crosstrek CVT and really liked that.
I've drove a 2014 6MT forester and I really liked that too.

The owner reviews of the crosstrek on edmunds are somewhat disconcerting:
many people wouldn't buy the crosstrek again.

The owner reviews of the foresters on edmunds seem much better.

So I'm, as usual, conflicted.
 

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We've had our crosstrek since feb of this year & love it. We got to test it out in 10 inches of snow & it did wonderful :) This crosstrek is primarily my hubby's but he does share it with me. We also have an 05 Tacoma that I drive for the most part but in the next couple years when we pay off our crosstrek & it's my turn to get a vehicle I'm really wanting another crosstrek except I want the orange we have desert khaki now & I love it but don't want 2 of the same color ;) Good luck on your decision!
 

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You know that was really helpful, tmorgan66030.
What kind of MPGs are yo getting ?

We have a 2013 Outback (wife),
1997 Town Car (family airloom),
1993 Toytoa Pickup (plow vehicle),
2004 Prius.
 

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Welcome to the site, lawlopez, and thanks for signing up to take the time to ask about the Crosstrek. Now, we may be a little biased here since this is a user group for the Crosstrek, but I have to say that I really do like my XV. I was just checking out the Edmunds reviews and they don't seem too bad. Sure, a few people are disappointed in some minor things, a lot being about gas mileage, but there are so many factors that come into play, especially with the first model year of the vehicle, that it is hard to judge. I am probably on the lower end of MPG in my Crosstrek, sitting around 24-25 average, but I live in the worst traffic in the country and spend most of my commute creeping along at 5mph. I did drive from NC to CA when I first purchased the XV and averaged 34+ MPG since it was all highway cruising speeds.

I think in the end it comes down to what you want, but I don't think you would be disappointed in the Crosstrek. That said, you also wouldn't be disappointed in a Forester, so I think the best thing to do is test drive them again and really think about what you want and need. Just know this forum is full of very happy XV owners.

Best of luck and let us know what you end up with!
 

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Hello from just a bit south of you.

I live in a fairly rural area and also have a steep sloping drive leading down to the house. I have seen many a visitor's luxury sedans spinning their tires on February ice at the base of my drive - unable to climb. But not me!

Gotta love a Subaru in New England wintertime.
 

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I have a long driveway too but not 1200 feet. When I have a big party, I have my guests park on the grass along the driveway and each side can take about 12 cars.

I had a barbecue scheduled this weekend and all we got was rain. But the party goes on so all the food was taken in the garage and out went my cars. I've had my Crosstrek since November, but this was the first time it was just sitting out there. The rain did stop and people did start hanging outside eventually.

What can I say, the Crosstrek just got pure admiration. Everyone just loved the way it looked. It really drew a lot of attention and questions especially it is not seen much out on the road.
 

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Hey LL, welcome to the site. You pose a interesting question. I've driven the new for 14' Forester and I was really impressed. It is a bit larger though and more than I need since our youngest is now in college. Every time I drive my XV, I am so pleased with my decision. This, even though I'm a horsepower devotee. I just drove from Charleston, SC to Cleveland and not a single time did I encounter a feeling that the Crosstrek was underpowered even though I drove through mountains in Va. And WVa. I averaged nearly 32mpg driving between 70-80 mph.

I'd say you're going to end up with a fantastic vehicle regardless of your decision. I don't envy you! Good luck! 8)
 

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lawlopez said:
You know that was really helpful, tmorgan66030.
What kind of MPGs are yo getting ?

We have a 2013 Outback (wife),
1997 Town Car (family airloom),
1993 Toytoa Pickup (plow vehicle),
2004 Prius.
Depending on who is driving it!lol My hubby drives more highway then I do when he drives it we average about 27-28. When I drive it, it's more like 23-24 but I do all in town driving. But it's still better than our 98 grand Cherokee that we got rid of for the crosstrek :)
 

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Thanks everyone:

I've been busy at work and just got back from Stellfane.
We drove the town car and the toyota pickup.
(town car with camping stuff, pickup with NHAS club
canopy and bbq).

The town car got benched after a rain storm.
It was having problems on the dirt roads.
We should have driven my wifes Subaru !!!
Still, that's it's purpose in life.

Thanks for the MPG estimates tmorgan66030. 23/24 in town, 27/28 highway.
Around here we get 23.4 average on the town car on highway.
It is totally benched in winter.
My wife's subaru outback 2013 get 29 on her mixed dirt road, secondary road
and 50 MPH 2 lane road. It goes anywhere.
My Prius of course gets about 50.
It makes you think you will get up our hill and then falls apart.
So after you really get into winter, it's totally benched.

We have never had a subaru that couldn't get up our hill in normal weather.
18 inches and 30 inches of snow are another matter.
My JD950 tractor could have done that buy it was sold.
Or it could do 18. Not really sure of 30.

Thanks RubySu for the acceleration review.
I've kind of noticed that if I have an acceleration problem
on a hill or stretch of road it goes away as I get used to that section of road.
You prepare for it and don't let up and such.

XVEwing, I don't really like a big car. But I do occasionally need something big.
Then again, I already have a pickup truck for towing and plowing so an XV isn't small
for my day to day driver.

Thanks Rivmage, it's good to be here.

Hi Wilco1973, my wife's be driving Subarus since '93.
I drove her '93 for a while it was great.

ClubCrosstrek, I should hope to heck you were biased or I wouldn't be here.
34 MPG isn't too bad at all for an awd car on the highway.

I should go drive a 5MT crosstrek I think.
I haven't done that.

See ya, and good night.
Larry
 

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lawlopez said:
I drive a Prius mostly.

But winter is approaching and my 2005 Prius won't get up my 1200' driveway reliably because it is steep and because of snow and because of ground clearance.

I worry about the hybrid crosstrek not likeing to drive up hills like the Prius.


I've drove a crosstrek CVT and really liked that.
I've drove a 2014 6MT forester and I really liked that too.

The owner reviews of the crosstrek on edmunds are somewhat disconcerting:
many people wouldn't buy the crosstrek again.
Hope you find a Subie you like. If you are considering the Hybrid Crosstrek it is different from the Prius. It actually has the same 4 cylinder engine as the regular model but adds electric motors to assist range and average mpg. So if anything it will have more torque then the all-gas model. As for reviews every car has short comings. It has to do with your expectations. I had a 2012 Impreza so was aware of the lack of hp but that was not a consideration. Road clearance and MPG were important to me. During break-in when you are not suppose to drive over 4000rpm I was getting close to 40mpg. After break-in I didn't drive as conservatively so now get from 25 - 29 around town but can hit low 30s on the highway. So yes these cars can deliver the mpg advertised but driving habits are a huge factor. As far as quality and noise levels my car has been awesome. No rattles, the road noise is not intrusive. Its been noted that the roof racks add a lot of wind noise so maybe some had racks and weren't aware of the problem. These cars were designed for best in class gas milage and at a good value price point. To get the same options in other brands can run $1000s more and Subaru has a history of reliability and does AWD just about better than anybody.

Good luck on your research.
"Just down the road in Milford."
Tom
 

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I ended up getting a 2010 Outback Premium with 55,000 miles with a sunroof for $16,800.
Craigslist.

I'll probably trade it in for a used hybrid crosstrek when someone
grows out of it.

I love it by the way.

Thanks for all the help.
Larry
 
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