Why Subaru even sells there all weather floor mats is beyond me. Myself like most others bought the weather tech mats. Here in the Midwest salt in the carpets is inevitable, so any thing I can do to help keep it clean means less time cleaning for me. If anyone is interested in my stock all weather mats, or the carpeted ones just message me or post a reply. Not sure what to ask for them, I just know i'll never need them, so I'd entertain any offer. The carpeted ones are new in the bag.