Nice. There is a us seller that has them with the panic button hole so the you can have all the buttons. Have two shells on the way as we speak.

 

That's great to know. Can you link his page so I can get that remote Gachrid. I just spent 20 minutes on a call to china just to be told they can't help me get the right blank. So I will be sending this one back now I guess.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Subaru-Flip-Key-Shell-Conversion-Kit-3-1-US-Seller-/111030697166?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ASubaru&hash=item19d9f1fcce&vxp=mtr

He has both types of blanks so you just need to let him know you need the non-laser cut version.

 

Thank you Gachrid! I got one as well. Let me know how your install goes please.

 

I am sorry... Can you please tell me how the Valet Key works?

Thank you

 

I am sorry... Can you please tell me how the Valet Key works?

Thank you

The valet key doesn't have the transponder and cannot start the car. It can only unlock the door.

It used to be that valet keys were useful in starting the car, unlocking doors but not allowing access to the trunk and glove box. Since new electronic keys have been around, they simply allow you to use it to unlock the car door only.

In my particular case, I can carry the valet key in my bike bag and leave the electronic key in the car. It is lighter and will not be ruined if it gets wet.

I hope this helps.

 

Thank you 0331 - that helps a lot. I am going to get one also.

Thank you so much.

 

The valet key doesn't have the transponder and cannot start the car. It can only unlock the door.

It used to be that valet keys were useful in starting the car, unlocking doors but not allowing access to the trunk and glove box. Since new electronic keys have been around, they simply allow you to use it to unlock the car door only.

Which is why calling it a valet key is somewhat of a misnomer. I guess now Subaru is calling it a sub key (versus master sub key). Heck, even the valet mode isn't what it used to be in older models. I can definitely see the point of having one of these keys if you leave your chipped key inside the car (accidentally or intentionally) and need to get in to retrieve them (and don't have another chipped/remote key on you) .... but can't see other practical uses for it. So, eventually, will be coughing up big bucks to have a third master key cut and programmed by the dealer.

 

The valet key doesn't have the transponder and cannot start the car. It can only unlock the door.

It used to be that valet keys were useful in starting the car, unlocking doors but not allowing access to the trunk and glove box. Since new electronic keys have been around, they simply allow you to use it to unlock the car door only.

Which is why calling it a valet key is somewhat of a misnomer. I guess now Subaru is calling it a sub key (versus master sub key). Heck, even the valet mode isn't what it used to be in older models. I can definitely see the point of having one of these keys if you leave your chipped key inside the car (accidentally or intentionally) and need to get in to retrieve them (and don't have another chipped/remote key on you) .... but can't see other practical uses for it. So, eventually, will be coughing up big bucks to have a third master key cut and programmed by the dealer.

As long as you have the key code that came on the keys I was told a key is like $75 I think. If you lose the key code then it's big money because you need all new keys since they need to change everything. At least that's what I was told by the dealer.

 

As long as you have the key code that came on the keys I was told a key is like $75 I think. If you lose the key code then it's big money because you need all new keys since they need to change everything. At least that's what I was told by the dealer.

Negative. At least not in my area of Pennsylvania. It's going to run in the $300 range. When I talked with my dealer after picking up the XV (they didn't have the exact figures on hand), they ball-parked it as ..... the key, itself, will run around $200 (have seen an uncut original chipped key on Ebay for around $150), then they will charge to cut it, then Subaru charges the dealer (which will be added to the cost) $20 to download a code for the key, then the dealer charges an additional amount (around $30) to actually program the key. All other keys and vehicle must be present while the new key is being programmed by the dealer. So, as I said ..... it's not cheap! Also, these keys must be ordered and paid for in advance by my dealer. For me, it's kind of like paying for insurance and the convenience of having a third key on hand if something happens to one of the other two. Sad to say, things happen!!!! Remember once when snow-blowing my in-law's driveway. Got out of my Forester and put my keys in my pocket (or thought I had). In reality, they fell to the ground. Realized what happened when I heard and saw them fly some 25 feet away when they were scooped up by the snow blower!!!! Fortunately, those where the good ole days before Subaru started chipping their keys! Just need to buy a spare remote fob and cheap key.

 

As long as you have the key code that came on the keys I was told a key is like $75 I think. If you lose the key code then it's big money because you need all new keys since they need to change everything. At least that's what I was told by the dealer.

Negative. At least not in my area of Pennsylvania. It's going to run in the $300 range. When I talked with my dealer after picking up the XV (they didn't have the exact figures on hand), they ball-parked it as ..... the key, itself, will run around $200 (have seen an uncut original chipped key on Ebay for around $150), then they will charge to cut it, then Subaru charges the dealer (which will be added to the cost) $20 to download a code for the key, then the dealer charges an additional amount (around $30) to actually program the key. All other keys and vehicle must be present while the new key is being programmed by the dealer. So, as I said ..... it's not cheap! Also, these keys must be ordered and paid for in advance by my dealer. For me, it's kind of like paying for insurance and the convenience of having a third key on hand if something happens to one of the other two. Sad to say, things happen!!!! Remember once when snow-blowing my in-law's driveway. Got out of my Forester and put my keys in my pocket (or thought I had). In reality, they fell to the ground. Realized what happened when I heard and saw them fly some 25 feet away when they were scooped up by the snow blower!!!! Fortunately, those where the good ole days before Subaru started chipping their keys! Just need to buy a spare remote fob and cheap key.

DRH is right. I checked on the price of a third chipped key and the price was around 245.00 and that was before I signed the paperwork to buy the car. This was before any labor fees which may run from 0-$75 depending on the mood your service people are in the day you show up! lol!

 

Well I was just doing off what the dealer told me. They said having to do a single key was not a lot if you had the others and the original key code number. If that was lost they had to redo the key code for everything and that was a crap load of money. Either way, I don't care cause I'm not losing my keys ha

 

So, I left the "valet" key with the dealer when I got the oil changed. How did they manage to start the engine and move my vehicle if all it does is unlock the door?

I'm pretty sure the provided valet key is indeed chipped, it just doesn't have the integrated electronic fob and will not open the glovebox.

 

You are very right about that Cricket, the one provided with the car will crank it and even unlock the glove box. It has all the function of the other keys minus the buttons to lock , unlock. The key that I had made for my bike, however, does not.

 

That is extremely interesting. Are you saying that you both have actually "used" this third key to operate the vehicle? Gotta say ..... this would make more sense than its only purpose being unlock the door .... however, contrary to what I have heard.

 

That is extremely interesting. Are you saying that you both have actually "used" this third key to operate the vehicle? Gotta say ..... this would make more sense than its only purpose being unlock the door .... however, contrary to what I have heard.

Yes, as far as I can tell, the only difference with the valet key (again, speaking of the third key provided from Subaru) is that is has no electronic fob incorporated and will not unlock the glovebox.

 

All keys that come with the XV will fully operate the vehicle. The one without buttons shouldn't open the glove compartment.

Any cheap keys that don't come with the vehicle, but are bought separately, likely will not start the vehicle.

 

So I got the flip houings today. Very nicely made. High quality and things fit nicely. Only issue I have now is trying to figure out how to remove the transponder chip from the key. Considering asking the dealer if they can cut a key and give me a chip with the same code. Not sure what they would charge for it... as of now I can't figure out how to get the chip out. Not sure what material is holding it in.

 

So I got the flip houings today. Very nicely made. High quality and things fit nicely. Only issue I have now is trying to figure out how to remove the transponder chip from the key. Considering asking the dealer if they can cut a key and give me a chip with the same code. Not sure what they would charge for it... as of now I can't figure out how to get the chip out. Not sure what material is holding it in.

They can't give you a chip with the same code. The chips are coded to the vehicle when you get a new key, not pre-made with different codes. The best they could do is get you another key to have programmed to your vehicle for you to cannibalize for the flip-key.

And that may not work as well as hoped. As I recall that only three keys can be coded to it at a time, so you'd still only have three keys. I'm not 100% sure on that bit though, just feel like I read it in the manual or a forum. May be wrong, and would be more than happy to admit to that if that's the case.

 

I think that's right Chasem. Three transponder keys at a time and like 5-6 keys total maximum that can be EVER programmed into the life of the computer.

Also, my coded valet key works in my glovebox. It can unlock and lock it no problem at all.

I should get my flip key tomorrow, I will let you know how it goes. Perhaps with two of us, we can crack the transponder issue Gachrid.

 

Well as of now I've tried to cut out enough plastic in the key to get the chip out but not harm the key. It just won't come out. Not sure how the hell this thing is attached. I don't want to destroy the key to get it out. I read that the car can hold 4 codes at onces and it just pushes codes out when you add new ones. I can't imagine that they would have the computer max out at 5. If three are programmed in and someone loses their key they made need new keys. Which would mean probably three keys. That would mean 6 six already...

Whatever the case. I don't want to destroy one key for possibly getting it to work...

 

Did some more work tonight and still can't get the chip out. So at this point it's going to be cut out the chip and key blade with dremel and fit it into the flip key if I want it done. If it doesn't work I'd need another key. If it does work then good. But I guess no point buying another key up front just to cut it apart. Just cut one I have and replace if needed I guess.

 

Gachrid, have you had any luck getting the transponder out? I received my flip key today. I see the transponder and understand why it was so difficult. I will wait to hear from you before I proceed.

 

I got one too. I am going to attempt to remove the transponder tonight myself. It looks as though it is some kind of a soft pliable glue holding it in. I scrapped some off. But I want to get a strong pin to tried and scrape out more then I am going to see if I can pry it out.

My question is where do you get the key cut. They are not laser cut keys, or so I am assume are they?

 

Hi Chris, welcome to our challenge. Hopefully you got the non-laser cut key. It should have a couple of mainline grooves already cut into each side of the blank and not be just solid smooth metal blank on both sides.

If this is what you have then you can take it to anyone with a key machine that you know has some experience and they can cut it. I wouldn't trust it, however, to the average walmart kid with 6 months tenure. I took mine to a local homestead where I know the guy has been doing keys for 12 years and has great experience at getting it right the first time.

From my reading about these transponders, they are very fragile and easily broken. I am hoping Gachrid has the best method to remove one.

Good luck.