[Amelie]

But isn't the Hybrid supposed to be exceptionally fuel efficient in city driving? And, does your EV function work when you have the heat on without the AC? Because mine doesn't. The EV systematically goes offline when I turn on the heat! It's really odd.

 

[Hacksaw]

But isn't the Hybrid supposed to be exceptionally fuel efficient in city driving? And, does your EV function work when you have the heat on without the AC? Because mine doesn't. The EV systematically goes offline when I turn on the heat! It's really odd.

How cold has it been where you live? What is your average trip in the vehicle? Hybrids are meant to operate efficiently when the engine has reached operating temperature. Your owners manual should explain the operation of the hybrid system.

 

[Amelie]

Thank you for asking. The temperatures in which I've driven have varied from 30 to 43 degrees. My average trip is 8 miles: 2 city, 4 highway. EV doesn't work when I put on the heat (AC is off). I'm getting max 21 mpg, which is worse than the 2008 Outback I traded in for the hybrid. I'm really beginning to regret my purchase as it isn't delivering it's high MPG promise and I'm bummed about it because I love this car in all other respects! I just have simply gotten the limited.

 

[Hacksaw]

Thank you for asking. The temperatures in which I've driven have varied from 30 to 43 degrees. My average trip is 8 miles: 2 city, 4 highway. EV doesn't work when I put on the heat (AC is off). I'm getting max 21 mpg, which is worse than the 2008 Outback I traded in for the hybrid. I'm really beginning to regret my purchase as it isn't delivering it's high MPG promise and I'm bummed about it because I love this car in all other respects! I just have simply gotten the limited.

Again I'll state that the hybrid is designed to work efficiently when it's at operating temperature. With the outside temps you described and your average trip length, the engine is probably not even at operating temps. Proper operating temps are around 200 F and I would bet that you're probably still in the 160's by the end of your trip.

Click on the link to see how the EPA calculates mpg.

Detailed Test Information

 

[madmaxmutt]

I just got the 2016 hybrid touring and am getting an average 20 mpg and the Electrical Vehicle function automatically turns off when I put on the heat whether it's 21 or 40 degrees out. I live in the greater NYC area. Does Subaru mean to tell me that I must drive bundled up in my coat if I want my hybrid to work? Why did I pay that extra $4K for????

I don't have a hybrid, but it doesn't sound like it should be happening. Check your owners manual for how that should work and talk to your dealership as soon as possible.

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[mklcolvin]

Amelie,

I haven't noticed it yet, but I'll give it a try & let you know...

 

[MarioAndretti]

Again I'll state that the hybrid is designed to work efficiently when it's at operating temperature. With the outside temps you described and your average trip length, the engine is probably not even at operating temps. Proper operating temps are around 200 F and I would bet that you're probably still in the 160's by the end of your trip.

Click on the link to see how the EPA calculates mpg.

Detailed Test Information

I hate to tell you this but that's exactly what's supposed to happen.The heat has to come from somewhere.Heat isn't free in your house nor is it free in your car.In cars it comes from the internal combustion engine.If the engine isn't running then you get no heat.Simple as that.Now even if the engine is warm enough to supply heat you still need the water pump running to move the hot coolant through the heater core in order to transfer that heat to the passenger compartment.Now you could use an electric heating system.BUT,there's nothing that pulls more electricity than an electric heater.It defeats the purpose.

I would much rather the car not operate in EV mode than make me sit there and freeze in a cold car.Lights,passenger heating as well as keeping the batteries themselves protected from the cold is what has prevented electric cars from really taking off.Especially in areas with a cold climate.The heaters drain the battery too fast and the cold it's self drains them even faster.EV's don't work well in the cold and hybrids are not imune either.

 

[AWDfreak]

If the XV Hybrid still uses the conventional crank-driven water pump, that's probably the reason why turning on the heater keeps EV-only mode off. Without coolant circulating through the heater core, no heat will be delivered.

 

[sleepy]

Thank you for asking. The temperatures in which I've driven have varied from 30 to 43 degrees. My average trip is 8 miles: 2 city, 4 highway. EV doesn't work when I put on the heat (AC is off). I'm getting max 21 mpg, which is worse than the 2008 Outback I traded in for the hybrid. I'm really beginning to regret my purchase as it isn't delivering it's high MPG promise and I'm bummed about it because I love this car in all other respects! I just have simply gotten the limited.

a few questions.

1) it doesn't ever go into ev assisted for acceleration?
2) if you take a longer trip does the EV work as advertised?
3) when you say "heat" does that include defrost?

ev mode is 15 mph or less, like driving around in a parking lot. as soon as you touch the go pedal the engine is supposed to come on (if it stops at a light)

as others have mentioned if the engine isn't warm enough to provide heat without running then the engine will also stay on, but in spring/fall you'll probably have a different experience

just so you know, defrost runs the A/C even when A/C is not selected. so if you turn on defrost, defrost heat, defrost vent or anything that combines with defrost it will run the A/C to pull moisture out of the air.

 

[MarioAndretti]

If the XV Hybrid still uses the conventional crank-driven water pump, that's probably the reason why turning on the heater keeps EV-only mode off. Without coolant circulating through the heater core, no heat will be delivered.

No,the water pump be it belt or electric driven has nothing to do with it what so ever.Even with an electric water pump you will get no heat by circulating "COLD" colant.If the gasoline engine is not running then you have no heat to deliver.If the engine is at full operating tempeture to the point that the cooling fans on the radiator turn on then it just might run in EV mode for you for a minute or 2 depending on outside tempeture.Otherwise,forget about it.You will simply have to accept what ever MPG your car,be it hybrid or otherwise,gives you until mother nature turns up the heat.

 

[sleepy]

So, it's been a little warmer in SD lately so i've been experimenting with driving styles and in town I can really get the numbers up, on this trip I kept running the EV battery out because i was on EV so long. This is about a 10 mile trip all in town driving. Every downhill i was triggering it into ev with a slight braking to get it to switch and then running it as far as I could on battery.

I find that as long as you keep the accel % to 10 or below it will stay in EV until the battery runs out. unless you are heading up hill or the ac is running or the heater has a lot of heat to give up.

 

[CrookedBillet]

The car's computer is (not surprisingly) very optimistic. My '15 hybrid is showing 33.7 mpg average after ~ 7000 miles. I've been tracking fuel consumption on Fuelly since the day I drove it off the lot w/ 40 miles on the ODO.

I live in a hilly area, but my commute is MOSTLY flat. If I stay really light on the accelerator, I can usually get the car's computer to hit 38 - 40 mpg over the course of my 33 mile trip - but that's flat, low traffic, at an average speed of ~ 40 mph, with a few through-town stretches where I run in EV mode a lot. Highway speeds, hills, and/or lead-foot will quickly erode one's efficiency.

Fuelly Stats to-date (after 21 fuel-ups and 6947 miles):

AVG MPG: 31.0
LAST MPG: 31.1
BEST MPG: 33.6

Quick update:

Now at 18,487 miles & 53 fuel-ups.

"Real World" MPG as calculated by me via Fuelly -

Best MPG = 34.3 (Have hit this mark repeatedly since the weather warmed up)
Last MPG = 31.9
AVG MPG = 30.9

The car's computer remains optimistic at an ODO Avg to-date of 33.6 MPG.

 

[applezz]

Per fuelly, my 2014 Hybrid so far:

18,150 miles with 57 fuel ups.

Best MPG = 32.7
Last MPG = 29.0
AVG MPG = 29.8

About 4500 miles were with the wife and kids on road trips using a roof basket and hitch mount bike rack.

 

[CrookedBillet]

Morning commute. 33 miles, a few hills, 3 school zones, and a long stretch along the river @ 60 mph. Avg speed overall 35 - 40 mph.

42.0 MPG average (claimed) for the trip.

 

[sleepy]

Here is 7500 miles of fuelly.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/crosstrek/2016/cnlson/422503
we took a trip recently from SD to TX, TX to TN, TN to SD. it did well on all of it, always over 30 on the highway, but one leg we got into a groove from DFW to North of MEM, 41 mpg the majority of the way. The fuelly calculated was just slightly less at 38.23

https://goo.gl/photos/Qn75hs8WKCM1XABTA

more importantly it is running 4-7mpg better in town than our 2012 impreza did. which is up to 20% less. so i am super pleased
Max (Subaru Impreza) | Fuelly

 

[wyrddsmith]

2013 hybrid

Hi all, I bought my 2013 Hybrid Crosstrek in 3/2013, have 56,000 miles on it, and I drive about 70 miles a day commuting in rural Maine over very rough and badly maintained roads. My mileage is consistently at 34-37 mpg in the summer, unless I am going highway speed. (In that case, it can be from 18 in winter to 26 in summer.) But for under 60, usually that's the range. Now, in the winter, WITH studded snow tires, I can get 30 average if the roads have reasonable traction, and about 18 to 22 if it is a bad storm or icy.

I drive in all conditions as my job is "essential services" so I would like to say that after 17 years driving in this area, this car handles like a champ! It handles better than any other car I've driven.

 

[AWDfreak]

In North America, there is no 2013 model year Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid.

If your VIN's 10th digit is a "D", you actually have a regular gasoline XV Crosstrek as that indicates a 2013 model year vehicle. If your VIN's 10th digit is an "E", then you have a 2014 model year vehicle, which is the model year that Subaru began producing the XV Crosstrek Hybrid.

 

[wyrddsmith]

In North America, there is no 2013 model year Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid.

If your VIN's 10th digit is a "D", you actually have a regular gasoline XV Crosstrek as that indicates a 2013 model year vehicle. If your VIN's 10th digit is an "E", then you have a 2014 model year vehicle, which is the model year that Subaru began producing the XV Crosstrek Hybrid.

I beg to differ. It was purchased in March 2013, and, although only a few were released in the US that year, I bought one. I will attach a photo, if I can figure out how, as it doesn't want to load.

 

[wyrddsmith]

photo of 2013 xv

Photo of 2013 xv

 

[AWDfreak]

That photo tells me nothing of the model year of your Subaru. In fact, it may even prove me right. A picture of the VIN plate (preferably with 11th to 17th digits blurred or erased from photo for your privacy) will show the model year in the 10th digit.

Please note that build year does not equal model year.

In North America, that color green was not available until model year 2014 according to cars101 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek- specs, details, options, colors, prices, and more

And that green is indeed exclusive to XV Crosstrek Hybrids, again a 2014 model year and newer trim level.